Sure, Winona Ryder has a movie to promote â€” â€œHomefront,â€ starring Jason Statham â€” but sheâ€™d much rather talk about Lou Reed, if thatâ€™s OK. â€œI was supposed to see [the movie], but then Lou Reed died and I had to go to his memorial. And you know, I just havenâ€™t been able to. But I usually see something before talking about it,â€ Ryder says with a laugh. â€And itâ€™s also my first, like, this kind of movie.â€
Iâ€™m still a bit broken up about Lou Reed, actually.
Yeah, I know. I am, too. Itâ€™s weird, isnâ€™t it? I know he was 71, but I just didnâ€™t expect it. I did not know him well. I had to follow him at Allen Ginsbergâ€™s [memorial], giving eulogies. Itâ€™s like the scariest thing, following Lou Reed. But he was Lou Reed, you know?
Well, he was such a huge presence.
Last night, I was at a party for a movie that a friend of mine did, and there were theseâ€¦ â€œyounger people.â€ (laughs) Theyâ€™re talking about music, and it was like they didnâ€™t know that he was in the Velvet Underground, they didnâ€™t know anything about him. And they play music. I was like, â€œWalk on the Wild Side?â€ â€œSweet Jane?â€ Like, the big ones, and they didnâ€™t know them. Itâ€™s just crushing, you know? I actually played it on my phone for them.
Iâ€™ve heard he was one of the toughest people to interview.
Ethan Hawke â€” who worshipped him â€” met him somewhere and they were somehow exchanging numbers. Ethan was giving him his number and it was a 917 number â€” it was right when [those were new] â€” and he said Lou was like, â€œWhat?â€ Like he was too cool for the new area code. (laughs) Ethan was mortified, but it was kind of like, â€œHeâ€™s Lou Reed. He can think that thatâ€™s not cool.â€
I should ask you something about the movie.
You mentioned this is your first of â€œone of these kinds of movies.â€ What was behind the decision?
Well, part of it was that Iâ€™d never done anything like this. I was kind of surprised they offered it to me. It kind of read like arm candy â€” which was kind of appealing to me. â€œEh, Iâ€™m just a biker chick, arm candy in one of these movies. Iâ€™ve never done that, it could be fun!â€ And then also just honestly a big pull was James [Franco] because weâ€™re friends. I was like, â€œAre you really going to do this â€˜Homefrontâ€™ thing?â€
You do come off as more interesting than just arm candy.
Oh good. (laughs) Itâ€™s just, thereâ€™s not a lot of logic in these movies. It was an experience. I donâ€™t know if Iâ€™ll do another thing like that. I did a thing right after that was like the opposite, this really great David Hare thing [with] Christopher Walken and Bill Nighy and Ralph Fiennes, and itâ€™s about the bringing down of Tony Blair. Itâ€™s all words and brilliant and about detention centers being built and money-laundering. So to go from this to that, itâ€™s kind of like Iâ€™m glad that Iâ€™m older because I would hate to be the ingenue now. It just seems like it would be tough these days.
Things have definitely changed.
And you know what theyâ€™re remaking? â€œLittle Women.â€ I saw Christian Bale last night, and I was like, â€œHey, what the hell?â€ Itâ€™s just weird when you hit an age when theyâ€™re redoing [your old stuff].